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>> yes, yes, yes! yeah! >> yes! yeah! whoo! >> is there anything more awesome than that? i have a control room question. control room, can we play the goal again that resulted in that? can we please play that? play that again please. >> across. and goal! >> that's amazing. >> to save the usa's life in this world cup! >> even if you do not care about soccer, even if you have never watched another soccer game in your entire life, there was something about the artistic quality of that cross pass that speaks. that speaks to -- that speaks to where we are at. i will say one of the things that is great about the video that we just showed, of people reacting to the women's world
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cup, that video was put together by a man named robbie donoho. one of the things that is sort of surprisingly satisfying, i don't know, maybe in a feminist context about this, is to see all of these dudes super psyched for the women's world cup victory. in women's sports it is so often charactered that the only people who care about women's sports is women. so the economics of women's sports are often i think categorized as untenable because women aren't as into sports as men are, and you can't expect men to cheer for women. and so even though this is just some guy's youtube video collecting people's reaction to the women's world cup victory, let this maybe be the thing that sets to rest forever the idea that dudes don't like women playing sports really, really well. really cool. this is the women's world cup. it is still unfolding in
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germany. this game in dresden. as i said, the next round for the u.s. women will be u.s. versus france. which is going to be happening on wednesday. so if there is no "the rachel maddow show" on wednesday, it's because the staff spent the day watching that match instead of doing our work, which was fairly close to the way it worked yesterday too. that does it for us tonight. thank you so much for joining us. now here on msnbc, it is time for "the ed show." have a good night.
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>> president obama has put everything that democrats hold dear on the table, and republicans won't budge. the president knows what he is up against. >> i do not see a path to a deal if they don't budge period. i mean, if the basic proposition is my way or the highway, then we are probably not going to get something gone. we have divided government. if mitch mcconnell and john boehner don't want to see the government default, then they will have to compromise like democrats have to compromise. >> some republicans even want
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america to hit the debt limit. damn the coincidences. >> we don't need to panic. the president has been burning the clock with secret negotiations, pushing up against a deadline to create panic. >> so, he knows it will hit poor people harder than his rich puppet masters. president obama knows america can't take another recession. >> this recession has been hard on everybody. it is harder on folks who have got less. >> really, even after the greatest economic downturn, the rich are living high on the hog, are they not? the president is putting too much on the table with republicans, the democrats almost past medicare at 55, before joe leaderboarderman torpedoed it on national tv. now it seems that president obama is willing to take
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medicare in another direction. according to five separate sources, the president offered an increase to 65 move itting to up 67, for republican movement on increasing tax revenues it is no wonder why the democrats are upset. none of them want any part of cutting medicare, medicaid or social security. nancy pelosi drew the line in the sand on friday. >> we do not support cuts in benefits on social security and medicare. any discussion of medicare or social security should be on its own table. i have said that before. take a look at social security, look at it on its own table. do not consider social security a piggy bank for giving tax cuts to the wealthiest in our country.
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the president is looking for the biggest deal he can get. >> continue to push congressional leaders for the largest possible deal. there is going to be resistance. there is frankly resistance on my side to do anything on entitlements. there is resistance to do anything on revenues. if each side takes it a maximalist position, if each side wants 100% of what the presis positions are, then we can't get anything done. voters see him --
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>> who will you blame if the economy collapses. if they can't get a deal on debt ceiling. afor republican i will bring you the results later on. joining us, is joan walsh, dr. petersen. and washington postcolumnist isracline. thanks for joining us. your thoughts at this hour, now that president obama put the holy grail on the table. is this the right move? >> i am concerned about it. the optimistic part of me hope that is he is doing this knowing they are going to wake away, to prove he is the grown up in the room. the reasonable guy.
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and our side is willing to talk about anything. you know, putting social security in this mess is crazy. the fix that candidate obama proposed was to raise the cap, i don't hear that on the capable table. i think you know as well. it makes me sad to hear ideas to raise medicare to 67. some of us get to sit in nice studios and sit at desks, not work with our hands. not be on our feet. have help from other people. other people work hard all their lives and count on medicare at 65. they have been waiting for it for years. i have friends in the their early 60s looking forward to it. our debates are so dominated by
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elites this seems, we are living longer, and i feel pretty good. i can pay for healthcare on my own anyway it is crazy. >> dr. peterson, is the president being a good negotiator? he is throwing out a number of trillion dollars, an unachievable number, if you are going to protect the big three. >> i think the president is being exceptional. he may be up inforcers. the debt ceiling the fact that they won't budge at all, shows us what the president is up against. i want to echo what joan is saying, the elites are making decisions, to impact the nonelites, that disconnect makes a lot of the discourses and discussions very problematic. it is a preception game. will we pay soldiers and police?
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the american economy won't be the same if we default on the debt ceiling. >> the president is making the point that republicans will never give him a victory on anything. the school of thought is that if we do, as a country, not pay our bills, eventually, it will be historians and the politicians, and people in the next election will blame president obama, and a victory for the republicans. what do you think? >> it is possible. i think they see it as a win-win. david brooks a week ago. the guys are willing to compromise, and deal, and be in the middle here. that is great for the obama brand. if the republicans take it, terrific. from their point of view, they have taken the deficit off the
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table. if the republicans reject them. as is happening now, republicans look like they cannot possibly take yes for an answer. if the debt ceiling caves in, the republicans will be the ones standing under it. the american people will blame them. they are probably right on the latter part. what if the republicans take the deal? the way you get, the deal of the century, if you are offering them the deal of the century, the republicans take it. democrats will be left with crummy terms. >> president obama never drew a line in the sand on the bush tax cuts in the lame duck session of congress. the universal healthcare, never even on the table. he has to have this four trillion dollar number right now. what do you make of that? >> i am concerned about it.
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sometimes i think that this man is up against such entrenched forces of wealth and power in this country that he is stuck in a corner. my heart goes out to him. on the other hand, i think that from day one, when he took office, he did not tell us, he said himself, he didn't let us to us, how bad the economic situation was. he didn't tell a story of what it was going to take to get us out of it. there was going to be stimulus spending that maybe you don't use the word, because he is gone. the kind of spending in a recession, where the government steps in and provides demands, when households can't afford to, to get the economy moving again. he didn't articulate that it was need and would be needed for two, three years, the stimulus we got died. unemployment is climbing on his
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watch. it is practically economically and politically disturbing. >> great to have you with us tonight. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. want to know what you think. we want to know if the president is willing and able to draw a line in the sand when we need him to. allan grayson. the force that got rupert mur murdoch i'm glad we got aflac huh. aflac! oh, i've just got major medical... major medical. ...but it helps pay the doctors. pays the doctors, boyyy! [ quack ] oh yeah? what about your family? ♪ we added aflac, so we get cash! it's like our safety net... ♪ to help with the mortgage or whatever we need! so my family doesn't feel the pain too. ha! [ male announcer ] help protect your family at aflac.com. [ pigeons ] heyyy! hooo!!!
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>> michele bachmann is surging to the lead in iowa and gaining ground in new hampshire. all this new found fame is putting bachmann's controversial past under the microscope. tonight abc news reported an advocacy group named truth wins out sent a gay man undercover with a camera to seek guidance from a bachmann associate. take a look at how the bachmann counselor told a gay man god wanted him to be attracted to women's breasts. >> marcus bachmann talked about counseling homosexuals during a radio interview last year. bachmann's husband said, "we have to understand barbarian need to be educated." we'll have much more on bachmann's outrageous behavior later in this program.
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only on the new hp touchpad with webos. welcome back to the "the ed show." one of the questions, the president obama draw a line in the sand when we need him to. he is talking about crucial cuts? bringing in allan grayson, a fighter for the left since he got on the national scene. listen to part of what president obama said about the
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entitlements. >> i am sympathetic to their concerns, they are looking out for folks who are hurting and vulnerable. seniors dependent on some of these programs. what i try to explain to them. if you look at the numbers, then, medicare in particular, will run out of money, and we will not be able to sustain that program. >> allan grayson, a man known for your unvarnished opinion. if you were in congress today, what would be your advice, how would you handle this? >> i would not vote for any cuts in medicare, i would not vote for any cuts in social security, and grabbing everybody else by the collar telling them to do the same. the republicans have been saying now for months that we need to cut $2 trillion out of the
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budget, without saying what they would cut. they got a free ride for two, three months, talking about all these wonder cuts to reduce the debt, without saying what they are. i know a way to cut $2 trillion out of the deficit, end the wars in afghanistan, and iraq, and libya, those wars cost us $157 billion last year, the cost is going up, not down. if you want to say $2 trillion, how about peace? give that a try? >> social security, a bigger deal, it seems like. harry reed was on "meet the press" said we didn't have a problem. the president now wants to put it on the table. the president acknowledged it is not part of the deficit problem, that is starting to sink with in americas. >> social security is not the source of our deficit problems. social security if it is part of
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a package, would be an issue of how do we make sure social security extends its life and is strengthened. >> so, strengthened means cuts, get the code language out here. any time you want to strengthen something, you are going ask consumers, who pay into the program, have to do more for the two top percent. if it is not the the source of the problem, why address it now? >> washington sdwided the meanies and weanies that is the two-party system. the meanies want to take social security and medicare away from grandmaand grandpa. the weanies are willing to go along with it and compromise. people need social security and medicare to live. there is no compromise between life and death.
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there is no middle ground. the average person who retires today has less than $50,000 in savings. those people live close to 20. there is no way anybody in america can get by without social security and medicare, that is what right wing wants to take away. no compromise, you need to strengthen medicare, i want to see medicare cover dental and hearing aid, i want to see medicare cover actual medical needs. snchlths this president weak? why isn't he say whag you are say something why does he throw $4 trillion out on the table, he knows it is unrealistic. he knows that republicans aren't going to deal with him anyone. could have told me that. >> he is the president, the leader of my party, i don't know what to say. all of the compromise has not accomplished anything useful for anybody on our side.
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the president should be saying to people, the republican party is cruel. the republican party is bigoted. the republican party cares about tax breaks for the rich. >> there are a lot of people who need your voice. are you going to get back into this political arena. >> i announced today i am rnging for congress again. hundreds of people have made a contribution. yes, i am back. >> good to have you back. former congressman allan grayson "the ed show." >> the minnesota twins have stopped playing nice, tim pawlenty took a swing at mitchell bachmann, bachmann struck back. does she want to take away your porn? she thinks african americans are better off under slavery than under president obama.
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>> tim pawlenty and mitchell bachmann started out the minnesota twins, as the competition heats up, the minnesota nice is fading away. pawlenty on offense, slamming bachmann's record in congress. >> i like congresswoman
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bachmann, i campaigned for her, i respect her, her record in congress is nonexistent. we are not looking for folks who just have a speech capabilities, we are looking for people who can lead a large enterprise in a public setting and drive it to conclusion. i have done that she hasn't. >> a few hours at pawlenty's digs on hot button issues. >> tirelessly against the stimulus spending, and no growth and american energy policy. i did everything i could to defeat cap and trade. i worked hard against the mandate in healthcare. i didn't praise it. there is a different record. i have a very strong, unparalleled record of standing up for the little guy. >> standing up for the little guy? i will let you decide whether or not bachmann is in the habit of standing up for the little guy.
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>> did two republican hopefuls really sign a pledge suggesting a return to the days of slavery? >> the marriage vow. >> back tracking from controversial pledges of their own. baby born after the election of the usa's first african-american president. after a media back lash,
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that slavery was horrible and economic enslavement is also horrible. she just can't bring herself to say slavery was horrible, period.
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>> but she says that it was better back then to be a slave than it is being born under the obama administration, or did i hear that wrong? >> well, that's ludicrous. obviously, the fact is that she's got her facts wrong. it's an ignorant statement literally because black people could not be married under slavery. so the nuclear family as she is trying to retroactively project back into slavery doesn't exist. it was literally illegal for men and women to be married. men were taken from women, women from men, children from their mothers and fathers as a matter of course in slavery. so slavery literately subverted the notion of family for african-american people. what also gives the lie to that as soon as black people got free, they married as much as they could. by 1850, 56.3% of black families were in a nuclear family, and by 1950, so it 80% of people were
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in male and female headed households. of course it plummets to 34%. but there are reasons for that. social policy, public policy, prejudice. the ramping up of the attack upon the black family by the coming matriarchy as moynihan talked about it. here is the point. the reality is slavery undermined the capacity of african-american people to be bound together as a nuclear family. but black people, despite that had an enormous hunger. michele bachmann's america and her history are really, really retrograde and ill informed. >> speaking of history of a different sorts, i want to point out you're right, melissa harris perry, that she did sign on, she didn't say it. this isn't the first time she has been connected with a slavery analogy. she compared health reform to slavery. homosexuality to slavery, is it somewhat of a peculiar theme to
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connect to everything she wants to be against? >> well, by the way, it's also a standard practice in the so-called pro-life community to talk about the dred scott decision as being similar to the reproductive choice decisions, right. slavery is often used as a kind of trope. it seems in this document they're not really talking about enslaved person. they're not really talking about african men and women born here in the united states, unable to partake of any element of their own labor. children sold away from them as professor dyson was just talking about. they're just talking about it as a trope, as a kind of shorthand for saying this is something we are against, and that is bad, and that we've all decided is bad. so anything we can equate to it is therefore bad. the good thing about that to the extent there is an agreement that slavery is something that we should not be proud of in our past, i think that's a good thing. the real challenge with this
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particular document is that it actually makes a claim that slavery is something we should be proud of. a kind of nostalgia for a moment of complete control over other human beings' lives as a way of creating a social order that protecting and provides for those who are at the very top. that i think is a thing that distinguishes this particular document and her willingness to sign on to it from this other kind of easy language. >> all right. bill o'reilly spoke to michele bachmann on his program earlier tonight, and he did not ask her about the pledge. michael, what do you make of that? >> well, you know, there is a conspiracy of silence around controversial issues, and they watch each other's flanks. would it be the fact that progressives and other left-leaning liberals could do the same. but it's atrocious. bill o'reilly as a journalist and avowed conservative ought to also be concerned about issues of race and issues as professor perry said of history and the imbalance between history and public policy and the ways in
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which the manipulation of that past has led to some detrimental consequences not only in the present, but appropriating the experiences of black people without asking them. they want the black experience. they just don't want black people. i think when you look at it that way through that narrow lens, it becomes a vicious repudiation of the very form of democracy that ostensibly their comments protect. even a trope when we don't get a chance to bring our bodies and our flesh in or stories, we just get a chance to be referenced. we don't get to speak for ourselves. >> great to have you with us tonight. thank you for your time. >> always great to be here. >> another fake scandal to get cranked up about. they're saying the government is going to take away your light bulbs. of course that's psycho talk. stay with us. thought they were dead. [ laughter ] [ grunting ] huh? [ male announcer ] should've used roundup.
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on scott walker's union busting agenda. but not if the gop can help it. as we reported in this news hour, republicans are running fake democrats against real democratic candidates in a primary. you see, wisconsin has like 82-year-old on theo junkerman. a former state lawmaker. you can't make it up. forcing a primary with the fake candidates, republicans pushed back the general elections until august. that gives the emcouple bants more time to get organized. six candidates are facing challenges tomorrow. we will be sure to give you the results on that here on the program tomorrow night n minnesota, get a load of this. a budget deal has yet to be
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in psycho talk tonight, the fictional war on light bulbs. smoky joe barton asked to repeal part of the law to request light bulbs to be more energy efficient. he wanted to repeal the law because the law outlaws the old bulbs.
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>> these bull gs have to go away, made in china with mercury with them. >> you go blind, they are -- >> if you have a light bulb, you are hording them. >> funny to see republicans start hording the light bulbs, the fox news buddies are full of it. it does not ban incandescent light bulbs, and companies have made light bulbs to meet the new standards. nobody is forcing them to use the scary pig tail ones. electricity bills will go down. the department of energy said it will state households billions. it was written bhoi a republican bill and signed by george w. bush.
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brian killmede saying people need to hord light bulbs is skiko talk. >> the phone hacking scandals get worse. journalists allegedly tried to bribe for phone records. the empire is in trouble thr over the south pacific in 1943. vietnam, 1967.
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the final edition of repert murdoch went the daily mirror reported that news of the world
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tried to bribe a police officer for private phone records of 9/11 victims, the police officer said he turned down the bribe at the time. gordon brown was a victim of hackers. according to the guardian, illegally obtained medical, banking and phone records, including medical data on his infant son. the news corp hacking scandal extends to the royals, victims of terrorism and murders and family members of them all. british sky broadcasting and hurt his bottom line. the stock is down 13% over the past five days. a group of shareholders announced a lawsuit.
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the company could face criminal prosecution in the united states. the justice department stepped up enforcement of anti-bribery laws, and say news corp's action could lead to similar probes. director of the landmark documentary, out-foxed, rupert murdoch's war on journalism. i am sorry i am laughing. you can't out-do this one. you don't have a documentary to out-do this one. do you? >> this is greater than any fiction story we could come up with. >> do you think it runs deep in this country as well? >> i think it is systemic in the way murdoch runs his operation. it is all about power.
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in the pursuit of power, which they then use on politicians and use to improve their bottom line, they literally will do anything. i think it is important and matters others are calling for an investigation and i think it is important that we support that. and wouldn't it be the ultimate irony, ed, if they were brought down for wire tapping 9/11 victims after fox's abused 9/11 so horribly in pursuit of a political agenda. >> a mosque was going to be built blocks from the tragedy of 9/11. i find it amazing. could this bring murdoch down? >> well, we don't know. this has gone beyond where anybody thought it would be. it is growing it is growing abroad, it is growing here, and we will see more and more
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evidence as people turn. the more people internally talk about fox news, realize their nex are on the line, they won't be defended legally. more of them will come to their senses morally. what a horrible thing to work for a newspaper, call yourself a journalist and engage in wire tapping. >> what i find interesting, journalists call themselves journalists who work for mr. murdoch. don't you think they would be coming out in droves saying, i am going to protect my integrity and profession. i have had nothing to do with the tactics, the silence is deafening. >> i think it is tragic. when we did our fox, which seems like a thousand years ago, we were contacted by journalists, and producers working at fox news, felt it important to talk to us. they did it in disguise. they were afraid for their jobs.
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what we are seeing not just at fox, but all over the country, is the country, how much are you willing to sacrifice in the pursuit of the bottom line? what -- >> what about the justice department? do you think congress is going to be looking into this? >> we sure hope so. news hounds, and media matters are all asking for an investigation. free press countpointed out this is what happens when you have media consolidation. we have forgotten for a moment how much extraordinary power one man has overall of our lives. >> amazing. great to have you with us tonight. tonight n our survey, i asked, who would you blame for the economic disaster if there is no deal on the debt ceiling. 16% of you said the democrats. that is "the ed >> john boehner

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